Guarantor issue

Hello,

I am a university student in Turkey. I have been accepted into a school in Paris. I am going to apply for a visa. As my parents are not working, I wish to present my brother, who resides in France, as a sponsor.

The income amount on the payroll is not very high. 600-700 euros, do you think they would accept someone earning this amount as a sponsor?

I have a second brother, he has the same level of income, is it reasonable to add him as a sponsor?

As my brother is from my mother’s first marriage, I also need to prove the relationship between us. They may also ask me to submit documents proving there has been a previous money transfer between us.

Would you advise me to apply with such a file?

Hello Samet
Do you mean guarantor?
If that’s the case, are your brothers married with children to support?

Hello @ewang95,

Yes. It is guaranteed. One brother is married with a dependent child. The other brother is also married but lives apart from his family, his family lives in Turkey. He lives alone.

In principle, to be eligible as a guarantor, one must have a net monthly income of at least 1329.5 euros, which is not the case with your brothers, so there is a problem. Therefore, I advise you to approach your family to find a solution together.

For more information on this subject, I invite you to read: student sponsorship Good luck

@ewang95, @Andrew they actually earn more, but the employer records this amount on the payslip, I don’t know why. Can they prove they earn more by showing different sources of income? What documents can be proven?

There has also been a new development, I have obtained a new acceptance certificate from Campus France. From a school in Marseille. My brothers also live in Marseille. I can get a certificate of accommodation stating that I will stay with them for free. Does this halve the monthly tuition fees? Does it strengthen the possibility of my brother being a guarantor?

Hello @Samet_Kaymaz

Does this reduce the monthly tuition fees by half?

Are you talking about the amount blocked for the avi?

With the avi in addition to free accommodation, the amount is reduced by half

Does this strengthen the possibility of my brother being a guarantor?

For your brother to be a guarantor, he must meet the eligibility conditions, meaning he must have at least €1,944.05 net to be eligible to be a guarantor if he lives alone

Firstly, it’s important to understand that sponsorship and accommodation are different.

Read: Studying in France: Student Sponsorship!

@Dona_Stid, yes, I’m talking about avi. If my brother does not meet the requirements to be a guarantor, can I make an irrevocable transfer certificate from my own account through an institution like Studely in Turkey? In this case, will the consulate ask me for the source of the money I use for avi?

@Dona_Stid Thank you for your response. I also want to know what documents I need for free accommodation, a family relationship, a lease, electricity, water, gas bills, etc. Is it sufficient for me to submit the documents? Should I add my brother’s tax return documents to the file?

@Andrew, @Dona_Stid

1 refusal and 2nd visa application.

I was accepted by Paris, Marseille, and Strasbourg. I chose Paris and applied for a visa.

June 2023, Response 2nd and 5th reason My father and uncle became guarantors. I did not present my father’s business documents. I only submitted the bank statement. He had about 3000 euros in his bank account. I presented my uncle’s business documents and bank statement. My uncle had 5300 euros in his bank account.

I made a 3-month hotel reservation as proof of accommodation. The price is about 3000 euros. In fact, a 3-month hotel reservation is ridiculous, but 3 of my friends got visas this way. That’s why I did it, even though it was silly.

The difference between my friends and me is that their fathers were guarantors, they had regular income, and they submitted their business documents. There was also enough money in the bank accounts.

Later, I spoke to VFS and they told me that « only family members such as parents and siblings can be guarantors. »

The main reason for the visa refusal should be the guarantor. The most important change I need to make now is to present my father’s business documents, but he does not work in a job where he can obtain these documents. That’s why I thought about making an « irrevocable transfer certificate » for 615 euros per month via an institution like Studely. But I have doubts about whether the consulate in Turkey accepts this. Because some visa specialists have stated that the consulate does not want a blocked account. I asked this question to « avicenter ». I got the response « We have already assisted several Turkish students with their study procedures in France and who got the visa because we are recognised by all consular services. » Should I rely on this response? With which documents can I present these organisations to the Consulate? Also, if I make an « irrevocable transfer certificate » with an organisation like « avicenter » or « studely », I will do it via my own bank account. The consulate will ask me the source of the money. I borrowed this money. Will this be a problem?

I have made 2 more important changes to my file. I obtained a certificate of acceptance for the school in Marseille. My brother lives in Marseille with his wife and 2 babies as a tenant in a 55 square metre house. Does this house meet the requirements for free accommodation? What documents should I present to the consulate?

Should I submit a new application with a file like this?

Hello Samet

With free accommodation, you have the opportunity to make an AVI of 350 euros/month. We have already seen that it works for other students.

To justify the source of the money, you simply say that it is a loan. Then you present your AVI provided by Studely.

Regarding your accommodation, the minimum area is 16m2 for two people plus 9m2 per additional person. After calculations, it is sufficient for your brother to accommodate you since he lives in a house with an area of 55m2. To justify your accommodation, you present the accommodation certificate (you can download the model from our site and fill out the form with your personal information).

With that, let’s keep our fingers crossed to get the visa.

Good luck